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Artists and Curators at Work, Rush Limbaugh, and a Gentle Exhortation on the Importance of Seeing All Sides

Originally posted December 15, 2005 -- I attended a panel discussion the other day, "Local Engagement: Museum Curators Speak" which featured four "younger" curators (although they weren't all young, and some had been in their posts for a number of years) as part of the ongoing "Artists At Work" series sponsored by the Chicago Department of Cultural Affairs under Barbara Koenen's capable supervision. (Check out their excellent website, here,)




Presenting were four curators from major Chicago institutions - the Art Institute of Chicago (Lisa Dorin), the Museum of Contemporary Art (Tricia Van Eck), the Illinois State Museum (Robert Sill) and UIC's Gallery 400 (Lorelei Stewart). I don't go to very many panels discussions these days, so maybe I'm just very out of touch, but I have to say I was rather taken aback at the small number of people in attendance.


Yes, artists in Chicago carry on almost pathologically about how difficult things are for artists



Here were four curators from important institutions, including the Art Institute and Museum of Contemporary Art (where I am also a curator) and there were maybe thirty people to take in what these figures, who very well could control their artistic lives, had to say. That's approximately eight people per curator. You'd think artists would jump at the chance to interact directly with such figures, who are often accused of failing to get out into the community. Yes, artists in Chicago carry on almost pathologically about how difficult things are for artists. That they aren't being properly paid attention to, especially by local institutions. Curators don't visit their studios; collectors don't buy their art, writers don't write about it either.



The scant attendance reminded me that years and years ago (probably the 1980s) I had given a lecture - my topic was "your responsibilities as an artist" - for Northwestern University's art department. And I really lectured those in attendance: Go visit your local museums! Get to know the staffs of these institutions! Get to know whether these institutions have anything to offer you! The audience of artists and art students sat in numbed silence, as if too much was being asked of them. I have often wondered if even one of my lecturees took my advice. Much the same advice was sagely offered at this panel discussion.



My colleague, Tricia Van Eck, exhorted artists not to waste their time sending out their information packets indiscriminately. Get to know an institution; find out whether it even fits what it is you are doing as an artist! Again, the audience sat in numbed silence. In those moments I would like to assign all potential audience members for panel discussions to attend a black church and perhaps learn how one might better participate. Some well-placed "amens" or "we hear you's" would be refreshing.

Yet as the audience seemed constrained and perhaps even timid, the panelists were confident. They outlined what their respective institutions did for the local artist community, and spoke of how they went about deciding who and what to show.


Get to know an institution; find out whether it even fits what it is you are doing as an artist! Again, the audience sat in numbed silence.




A lot of very good information was distributed. Yet I was feeling feisty, perhaps in reaction to the numbing politeness of the room. So during the q & a, in response to many comments about artists using their studios and practices as information conduits that they could better deal with issues that favored buzzword of the moment - I asked: "What resources out in the world as opposed to the often insular confines of the art world do you access?" When the panelists sat seemingly in stunned silence at my question, I clarified: "Ah, like, do any of you listen to Rush Limbaugh?"



Ah, I had pressed the right button. Not only was there a stirring in the audience, my questions instantly set off a chorus of murmurs and the panelists couldn't wait to respond. Lorelei Stewart answered me first. With her face curled with some disdain she said, "No, I don 't listen to Rush Limbaugh." I again clarified, "Well, it was a rhetorical question. What I 'm trying to get at is what kind of information do you take in so that you can properly evaluate the production of artists who are dealing with the issues of contemporary life?" And so she clarified, "Well of course I stay in touch. I travel. I go to movies, concerts, and so on, although I wish I had more time for that sort of thing. I listen to NPR and read the New York Times."



I had pressed the right button. Not only was there a stirring in the audience, my questions instantly set off a chorus of murmurs




At this point I will take my own advice and mutter "Amen." I could have predicted this answer with half my brain tied behind my back. For those of you who don't recognize my reference, that's one of Rush Limbaugh's tag lines. I first started listening to Rush Limbaugh regularly probably ten years ago, after I heard a girl artist at a party savagely ejaculating her opinion of him to a friend: "God, I hate him. I tell you what I'd love to do. I'd love to f---k him to death!" I stared openly at this young lady, thinking, "I'm sorry to tell you this, girl artist, but I suspect that Mr. Limbaugh might decline your offer of such a pleasurable death," for she wasn't much to look at, was wearing dirty, mannish clothes, and was very coarse (obviously) in her language.



It amused me that a young woman who had grown up with all the benefits that the women's movement had achieved would think the best way to deal with someone she detested was to use her sex. But I reminded myself such is the lifework of artists, to present paradox, or so I have been told.
I had listened to Rush Limbaugh from time-to-time at this point, as the local 50,000 watt blow torch, WLS, carries his program and I was spending a lot of time in my car in those days. When I first started tuning-in Rush was carrying on about the spotted owl. I found it almost impossible to listen to. Not only was I appalled by what he had to say - he was giving recipes for spotted owl stew or some such thing - as I have been a conservation-minded person since I participated in the 4-H Club growing up in rural Missouri, I couldn't stand his explosive voice and hyperbolic tone. But there wasn't much to listen to on the AM dial, and I was spending a lot of time in my car, so I kept tuning in.



Gradually I realized I had been making the basic mistake of expecting what I heard to conform to my druthers - I do prefer polite give-and-take, being the fifth child in a family of seven. I realized I was taking Rush literally when he was deliberately being hyperbolic and facetious. I had failed to let myself consider that he is an entertainer as well as a pundit, and had turned off my sense of humor completely. After I figured out that I needed to relax, lay aside my expectations of what should be said and listen to what was actually being said (in other words, open my mind), I realized I found Rush Limbaugh to be very funny.



I realized I was taking Rush literally when he was deliberately being hyperbolic and facetious



And I felt I was really hearing a different side of things. But perhaps at this point I should clarify. My political education consists of a single seminal experience that occurred I was in my early twenties. Not many can point definitely to the moment when the scales fell from their eyes, so I suppose I should be thankful. But at the time it was devastating, as of course I was young, idealistic, and liberal - wasn't everybody? You see, a few short weeks after subscribing to Rolling Stone magazine, a big financial commitment at a time when I was surviving on about $200 a month, I started receiving solicitations from the Army, enthusiastically requesting that I consider enlisting.



Mind you, this was while the Viet Nam War was still on! The way my name and address appeared on these solicitations was exactly the way I had penned it when I signed up, convinced it was the organ of my generation, for Rolling Stone. My youthful idealism was crushed in one fell swoop as I put two and two together: counter-cultural icon Jann Wenner was selling his magazine's subscription list of hip young people to the U.S. Army. I mean, this was when there still was a draft! (And in the interest of full disclosure, I eventually did consider enlisting in the Army, when I found that my expensive art school education had left me with no viable career.) This experience set me on the path of subscribing to a wide variety of magazines (after canceling my subscription to Rolling Stone).

My youthful idealism was crushed in one fell swoop as I put two and two together: counter-cultural icon Jann Wenner was selling his magazine's subscription list of hip young people to the U.S. Army




I wanted to hear all sorts of voices, not just what was deemed "correct," so I subscribed to The Nation and The National Review. I read the New York Times and the Chicago Sun-Times (well, they do have better sports coverage). I read The Face and The National Enquirer, finding them two sides of the same fantastical coin. I sought out the Black Panther Party newsletter and ducked occasionally into the local Christian Science Reading Room to peruse their Monitor.



I was especially careful not to develop an opinion based on what was being said in what is now fondly referred to as the "mainstream media", as my own rudimentary interactions with the press as I began my career as a curator showed me that they almost never got everything correct. Either the name was spelled wrong (it is Lynne with an "e" I would tirelessly say), the title was wrong, or the name of the museum was wrong (I can't tell you how often I stressed that "The Chicago Modern Art Museum" is not the same thing as The Museum of Contemporary Art). I'm not talking about matters open to interpretation and analysis tho I started thinking, I must admit, that people who can't get the basic facts right might have a problem with the rest of the content as well.The only reporter who ever did get all the facts right in an article about one of my endeavors was Jeffrey Zaslow, when he wrote for The Wall Street Journal.



Of course, he then became an advice columnist for the Sun-Times and then seemed to disappear. All too typical, I could lament, if I were a cynical sort. These days, I tune in Rush Limbaugh pretty regularly (if I'm not listening to Catholic Radio (Relevant Radio 820 AM), a little-accessed resource in the art world, I'm sure), but what I really listen to is what Rush's callers have to say. I hear opinions that I don't hear on NPR or read in the New York Times tho' I am sure most art-world readers, having decided that I must be a conservative, might imagine I ritually burn.



Yet I also know my brothers, raised in a pro-labor union, knee-jerk Democratic party household where JFK was a god, have all become increasingly conservative (well all of them except the youngest, a certified Yuppie) after listening to Rush Limbaugh. My brother Neal, an ornery cuss who lives off the grid on a sailboat - hardly the profile of your typical Republication - said he had been force-fed the idea that Republicans were close-minded and only cared about what went on in others' bedrooms until he started listening to Rush, and that Rush and his callers opened his mind to a whole new way of thinking. Yes, he's college educated, as are all my brothers, and he is in the majority in his political leanings in this country, believe it or not, art world denizens. I'll have more to say on this in future postings.



Please, I say to people in the art world (although it is like shouting into the wind) don't be afraid to listen to Rush Limbaugh (tho' I would avoid Sean Hannity). He has some interesting things to say, and even if you don't find them interesting because you've decided he's an idiot (a popular stance these days amongst the elites, but that'll be the topic of my next posting, the elite that dares not speak the name elite) if you truly are a "cultural leader," as artists have been taught to think of themselves, you need all sides of the story, not just the line NPR is wont to give.



I mean, how many heart-string jerking stories about disadvantaged youth and heart-warming humorous anecdotes from David Sedaris can one listen to? About as many woe-is-me, the-Chicago-artworld-doesn't-care-about-us stories I have heard from artists over the years, I suppose. Perhaps there is even a relationship between these two things: for every story about disadvantaged youth there arises a gripe in the mind of the listening Chicago artist about how disadvantaged Chicago artists are, and for every David Sedaris tale, the artist feels cheated that he or she isn't as well known. After all, Mr. Sedaris emerged in the 1980s out of the Chicago art scene...



More later,


Lynne

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whew! do you mean artists (and others) should develop the capacity to entertain multiple points of view simultaneously, and at the same time here in Chicago, quit throwing a massive pity-party, and actually take responsibility for having their work out and seen in the art world?!@#%$#!@!@!!!!!?.....even....god forbid, question authority?!! ....Do we have to?!!!.........can't we just let the wonderful folks at Chicago Art Foundation handle all of that for us - so that we can go back to being our whiney, frightened selves?


there you go sharky - picking at fresh scabs. :^) Seriously though, one of my big beefs with art school, lo those many years ago, is that they gave us exactly NOTHING in the way of professional training or expectation. If I get your meaning, Wesley, you're saying that the people who expect CAF to beat a path to their door are sorely mistaken, right? That's for sure the truth. But art students have had their heads filled with notions of anti-gumption, and fairy tails about being "discovered." Right. That's for sure gonna happen. Personally, I agree with the stated objective of CAF - that there can be an organization devoted to helping young artists get a clue. That's a lofty goal, along with the others they represent. Here's hoping they can hit that mark.


well Dave, I beg to differ Sir; I feel confident in saying that the lofty goal of CAF is to somehow loft up the deservedly small reputation that Mr Klein now enjoys, while at the same time -and this is no mean feat, loft Mr Fitzpatrick's sizeable hulk up to a stature here that he feels is commensurate with who he sees himself as being.......... as for the 'stated' goals of CAF:.......lets hold off on that discussion for a moment -as this is Lynne's blog, there is much to discuss in what she has written here, and, as I have no small plans pending as to just how much I am going to enjoy attacking that ship of fools, I'm wanting to wait for the right moment and, the proper setting -no doubt somewhere right off Shark Alley.............. as I admittedly began this digression, and though it is topical, lets focus more closely on Lynne's discussion-


fair enough. sharkforum is a big tent. as I see it there are two really salient points in Lynne's piece: 1. The essential value for all people, artists especially, to expose themselves to a wide range of disparate information. 2. The reflexive quality of many in the art scence when it comes to positions or personalities they find distasteful. Did I get that about right? Both are excellent points. To take the example of Mr. Limbaugh, I have listened to his show many times, specifically during the Clinton years. I found him somewhat entertaining, very professional from a broadcasting standpoint, and utterly intolerable as a demagogue. Still, I agree with Lynne that it's vitally important, especially if you disagree with the man, to know what you're railing against. Her story about the "girl artist" (a wonderfully depricating euphemism) is very funny, as it encapsulates the sadism, masochism, and egoism (I've got more of these "isms" - 50 cents a pound) which is so fashionable these days. We can agree to disagree about CAF - and, as you said, somewhere else.


I'm very guilty of wearing a one-sided badge -- and I whine too...I've enjoyed your posting Lynne. Let the serial proceed--


This piece really typifies just exactly what Wesley and I had in mind when we first started this whole thing. Why is it that creatives, who demonstrate such an abundance of courage when they choose this life (I already hear some people saying "but it chooses us", and I get that distinction) demonstrate such a paucity of courage once they get out into the brass-knuckle world of making it?
How is it that the avoidance of taking any position which may be viewed as impolitic becomes a governing doctrine? Doesn't "open mindendness" and strength of character dictate an ability and an impulse toward exposure to a wide range of perspectives?
Furthermore, when did it become unacceptable to pursue one's own self-interest? The whole point of SHARKFORUM is that we are all making an effort to advance our own interests. This need not equal doing so at another person's expense, and Ben Franklin had it about right, I think, when he helped himself by helping others.
The purposefully feckless affect (an oxymoron it would seem) of many creatives is horribly indulgent and cynical. Great piece, Lynne, and thanks for sharing it. I moved it up to the top of the blog because I think it's something that people should read and internalize. You cannot help others if you don't help yourself.


Dave, I concur completely with your last post -


Thank you, Lynne, for the thoughtful reporting on the Artist at Work Forum, and for linking to Chicago Artists Resource website.

Have you ever listened to Howard Stern? He is also fascinating -- certainly Rabelais would groove to his show. My only real problem w/ Limbaugh is that it feels like he's always screaming.

BTW, cheap plug, next seasons AAWF at the Cultural Center are...
January 19: Global Thinking: Expanded Practice Artists Michelle Feder-Nadoff, LaShawnda Crowe Storm and Michael Thompson with Patricia Johnson, former director of Chicago Artists International Program and executive producer of The Art Explorers, on the ranges and rewards of an international practice...

February 16: Gallery Lowdown Gallerists Dubhe Carreño, Carl Hammer, Stephen Kelly, and Carrie Secrist with Natalie Van Straaten, Executive Director of the Chicago Art Dealers Association, and publisher of Chicago Gallery News on strategies for artists working with galleries...

March 16: Careers that Work Artists Mary Brogger, Faheem Majeed, Jennifer Reeder and Paul Sierra on making a living making art...

April 20: Collecting Chicago Greg Cameron, Deputy Director of the Museum of Contemporary Art with Patric McCoy, Abe Tomás Hughes II, Diana Girardi Karnas, and others, on the dynamic between collectors, artists and the art community...

Hope y'all can join us!


Dear Lynne,

I love your article! I was an SAIC grad, and now live and work in Chicago. I have been around the block in the Chicago art 'school' scene. I showed as much as I could, worked for hip gallerists, and have the world record for having most of SAIC's visiting artists into my studio.

It was great!

Besides sharing my exasperation for the zombie lecture attendees, the Lorelei description made me laugh so hard I had to respond.

As for the non responsive attendees in the lecture-the only thing I can say is that ever since I was in undergrad.. the question people were always asking and never listening to the response was about how to crack the whole, common sense business aspect of this art world.

Still years later in grad school , students are complaining that there are no courses on how to make it in the art world.

They obviously didn't get the part where they applied to and interviewed successfully at an institution with apparently high standards.

In any case, I just don't understand why people cater all the time to the university level students that don't understand how to do the equivalent of tie their shoelaces in the art community.

Your non responsive audience?

Maybe they are embarrassed when they realized that they got stuck in yet another well meaning forum on how to get ahead. When it is well.. demeening..

Do MBA's have lecturers telling them that they have to get to know the employer or client before applying or pitching? Is that not just ELEMENTARY!!!!???

I have been guilty of generalizing.

I had always thought that artists were some of the most free, liberated and open minded individuals out there. Dumb Dumb! They can be most conservative.

When will these groupie artists get off there asses and go to a party that IS NOT at a dive bar where these 'open minded liberal and politically minded' artists smoke EVERYONES brains out. Who knew that Mike Ditka and all these art school kids had so much in common?

I remember being part of a 'lucky' group of 5 or 6 SAIC grad students being seduced with takeout sushi wabi by Kavi Gupta. We were with him to find out how to get ahead...

He asks us: What are you guys doing to make it out there?

Us: Sitting here with you.

No really, we all had done our fair share of showing, smoozing and stamp licking.

Kavis answer: You have to make yourself seen.. come drink beers and with me. The UIC kids drink with me .. how come you dont?

My answer: I am not dying of second hand lung cancer to hang my pictures in your show.

Now that is a good example of getting out there and feeling out whether an institution or gallery would fit your style.

Keer Tanchak www.keertanchak.com



keer, i think i would say the exact opposite of what (i think) you said. art school should not teach critical thinking, except as a side effect to the critique of each other's work. classes on the bussiness side of art should be required, however. you dont go to college to learn things that should be insinctual, like how to get from point a to point b in your thoughts. artists usually lack a business sense, and focus on their art. this is not a bad thing, but art school should teach the things that artists dont know - like tax forms, business lingo, etc, and should avoid all together the crap technique lingo. if they really want to teach all that crap, they should just give a list of books on theory the first year, as a requirement. art school is certainly not worth the thirty-some thousand dollars-a-year it costs to go to SAIC


Hey James,

Who isn't pissed about education costing money? It should all be free. I was raised by a communist - trust me I have very mixed feelings about this. But we live in this capitalist first world where education is a commodity. Personally, SAIC was worth it for me because of the huge amount of lectures by visiting artists and critics. Experience/exposure.. nothing beats it.

But wait!? Where are your statistics that show that most artists/ art students 'lack a business sense?' I don't believe you!

seems to me this is a story that we can retire along with 'most artists are crazy' and/ or ' you're an artist? thats so special!!! do you do oil or acrylic?'

I mean, we have all gotten past this right? We have been interdisciplinary for at least a few decades right?

I do agree with you that many art students have instincts and talent that would naturally develop outside of college. The reason I went to art school was to speed up that procedure - immerse myself in an environment of people excited about the history and theories of art AND (god forbid) learn a few techniques.

I would be furious with myself if half the formal learning experiences I had in school were to do with my taxes or structuring a business plan for after school...

Quelle bore!!!!

And my friends would fall asleep to my stories...

But, ultimately I am not saying that business skills should not be taught in school- I just don't know whether it should be college...

Perhaps high school? In Canada where I grew up, most secondary high schools require students to take business or law or some math...

And that brings me back to the beginning.. it's just all a little elementary...


you make some very good points, but i wouldn't lump my thinking in with that of communism.

i do think business needs to be a primary focus. the data? lets see those pie charts and bar graphs showing the rate at wich graduates get a job in the field. now lets remove all of those whose job contracts are with SAIC.

i think many have been stuck in the idea that the school of the art institute, with its unbelievable tuition rate and its lack of financial aid opportunity, is the only place around to get a good backing in the arts. go to columbia, down the street, for half as much. or to UIC around the corner for state-tuition rates. get taught by those artists rather than wait for your stop on a lecture tour.

im starting to get a bit in to a rant here, but my point, i suppose, is

that art school is not the only place for one to advance in their work. in fact, i would say that being in an environment surrounded by other painters (or whatever medium) is a bit stifling.

if you buy the aged homeless man on the corner a cup of coffee and maybe lunch, he will tell you his whole life story, and he will teach you more for $10.00, than any school instructor around.


Nicely said James. I received a Bachelor of Architecture in Design with a minor in Art History from UIC and I would not trade this education for one at SAIC. I worked as an architect briefly after graduating knowing very well that I would leave architecture to pursuit painting and sculpture. Architecture is an art form and science and your designs have to stand up. It taught me so much that helps me in my work to this day. Art school does not make you an artist. You are born with this desire and is up to you to follow through before your family or society kills it. You must move diligently in your pursuit of art. Like death itself it waits for no man. Then you must go out into life and live. Get to know people. James says, "buy an aged homeless person a cup of coffee or lunch......" Definitely he will not teach you techniques, but something far more important to an artist, he perhaps will teach you something about what it means to be a human being. And that is what ART is about.


Lynne,

At saic I learned to make a line that you cannot see because its been pulverised by light. A completely useless endeavor in this culture probably. Without enterprise this skill defies a spreadsheet, betrays product marketing acumen, and rarely can afford me lunch. Learning to do this did however enable me to understand the empathic internal logic of schizophrenics, many of which just come up to me in the street and start talking to me like they have known me for years. I don't know how this has happened, but had I learned marketing and spread sheets instead of lines pulverised by light, it never would have happened and I would be less human for it, although not bankrupt.

Well Lynne sorry for the excursion, to get back to the thought from your piece that got me writing, closed doors should always be a red flag I agree, and we need to know our opposition intimately by flinging open the doors that protect them so we can get close enough to taste their breath even if it is Rush or George W.

I laughed about the young female artists' threat to Rush, I thought Gee that wouldn't be so bad....then I realized a fantasy like that and hot meal could kill me. thanks again Lynne, good stuff. Ted


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