Nam Catonem nostrum non tu amas plus, quam ego; sed tamen ille optimo animo utens et summu fide nocet interdum rei publicae; dicit enim tamquam in Platonis politeia, non tamquam in Romuli faece sententiam. --- Cicero
As to our friend Cato , I have as warm a regard for him as you. But the fact remains that with all his patriotism and integrity he is sometimes a political liability. He speaks in the Senate as though he were living in Plato's Republic rather than Romulus's shit hole. --- Cicero